Russell T Davies

In this post, there is a list of the advanced words and phrases from the BBC Radio 4 Desert Island Discs interview with Russell T Davies, a very successful TV writers.   Aggie and I are currently creating a podcast (in which we will explain some of the words) and it will be launched soon!

You can listen to the interview here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0009zlq

INTRO BY LL 

One of the most celebrated screenwriters

00:54 He’s kept audiences glued to their tv sets for 30 years

00:59 all writers hope for water-cooler moments

Also talk of school playground!

1:06 Learned his craft after BAFTA winning stint at ITV studios on kids drama ‘childrens’ ward’

1:12 Before expanding his remit to prime time tv’s

1:13 series and soaps 

Took Coronation Street to Las Vegas!

1:18 groundbreaking Queer as Folk”

‘Nowt as queer as folk’

Lives of 3 gay friends in contemporary manchester

1:23 that made his name 

First to put young british gay lives in the spotlight

1:30 realisation of his childhood dream 

1:33 big budget regeneration of beloved tv timelord, Dr Who

“A moment’s imagination is worth a lifetime’s experience”


IMAGINATION, DREAM DAY WRITING 

2:11 Let’s start with that boundless imagination of yours

2:21 Is it something you have to feed?

Dream day writing is not writing actually!

2:35 If you can just mill about, potter about 

It’s like how sketches are better than paintings sometimes

→ writing

Sometimes the end product is too fixed and solid

2:52 My head is full of fireworks 

Have to hammer that down into letters and words and full stops

→ Writing is an act of loss


YEARS AND YEARS 

Wonderful Cast (contemporary, current story)

3:22 Big gap between drama and real life

Can take a year to write and get made

3:34 a lag in there somewhere

Drama should be talking about right now!

World itself is getting madder and faster and stranger → want to capture this

3:52 the gestation period for that show had been quite substantial (20 years) 

Had it in mind to capture world and way we’re affected by it and put it on scream 

4:15 I described years and years as dystopian 

There’s always hope! 

People are good —> We care for each other 

Have to hope that’s going to triumph in the end


FIRST DISC (SUGAR MOUNTAIN)

From Favourite TV show (Rock Follies)

4:56 They were pungent dramas

Don’t fit any genre 


EMMYS A Very English Scandal

5:51 Recently back from LA from the Emmys 

Emmy nomination for outstanding writing for ‘A Very English Scandal’

Hugh Grant played former leader of the liberal party 

Real people, lives were ruined

6:26 marvellously small story 

Felt responsibility to be fair 

6:47 Story had always been told by straight men 

INFORMAL someone who is straight is sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex

6:57 Well I get this completely 

Understood the passions etc of the story having met Norman Scott and hearing it 

7:06 the closetedness 

Can get over excited and focus on the wrong thing sometimes 

I hope it was a kind piece of work in the end


GAY WRITER 

Asked about category of gay drama - happy to be described as a gay writer 

7:59 You seemed very content with that prefix 

8:01 Why is it important for you to take pride in that distinction

Left Dr Who, said ‘I’m going to write gay dramas from now on’

It’s my joy! It’s what I think about 

8:31 it’s unexplored territory 

Queerness and otherness is still very new

8:39 We’ve always been here behind the scenes

We’ve been around for thousands of years making all the right decisions of course!

8:50 As an out society we’re less than 50 years old

Emotions in our hearts that have not been put onto screen yet 

And there are things that are identical to other people and that’s also important! 


MUSIC WHILST WRITE 

Takes a long time to find the right track

And once I do, repeat it again and again and again until it drives me insane

When I finish the script I never listen to it again as have heard it a thousand times!


SECOND DISC (HORA STACCATO, piano violin duet)

9:43 Looking for music that fitted A very English Scandal 

Need a duet 

10:03 It kind of gallops (the song) 

Listened to it over 10,000 times once I had finished


STORIES GROW UP WITH

11:37 Parents were classics and french teachers

11:44 A lot of Dr Who from Greek and Roman myths

Parents had full encyclopedia britannica

11:53 Did you avail yourself of it

Find yourself looking at nuclear physics, amoeba….

12:16 for such bookish people, they had a respect for television

12:20  they were slightly in awe of television

Sometimes looked down on but not in their house, left on if a visitor came, never turned off 


STARTING TO WRITE

13:00 Always writing, used to draw a lot 

13:07 Used to churn out cartoon strips 

Drew Dr Who, peanuts..

13:28 at a pivotal age

Careers teacher told me I’d never work in graphics or design because I’m colour blind

Thank God cos I ended up here!


WELSH PURSUITS

6 ft 6 

14:00 Did you play rugby?

My father was marvellous about that, he was a huge rugby man 

The PE teachers were very interested in me playing rugby 

14:30 I was a wimpish gay boy I had no interest in it

“You dont have to do what other people want to do”

“Just because I play rugby doesn’t mean you have to”


THIRD DISC (THREE WHEELS ON MY WAGON)

First record I ever heard


SCHOOL 

Tall clever

15:55 And that’s how I got through it

2300 pupils - big school

16:07 Kind of sailed through 

 West Glamorgan Youth Theatre Company

16:18 We put on plays 

16:23 Taught me punctuality

16:40 considered Bit frivolous to put on a play 

Stayed in it until I was 21

 It made me feel drama 

17:33 Felt that touching of the audience

As a county, spent vast sums on arts for kids 


FOURTH DISC (LEONARD BERNSTEIN’S GLORIA IN EXCELSIS)

18:12 The pinnacle of the  West Glamorgan Youth Theatre Company

Brought together whole choir, theatre, orchestra, dance

Very rarely performed because needs so many performers 250 

My role was to come on at the end and say ‘The mass has ended, go in peace’


OXFORD 

Studying English 

20:34 Could’ve skipped those 3 years

Should you go straight from school to university 

20:42 Only covered a novel in first year, then 2 years of poetry 


WHAT AFTER

Didn’t have the concept of being a TV writer 

20:57 Wasn’t sitting there yearning to do it

Presumed I’d work in TV behind the scenes

21:07 3 years running  I applied to this building for the trainee scheme

21:19 I got hold of the BBC head of personnel 

21:41 Some would’ve slunk away dejected

Knew I belonged here

A hard ideal to aim for (to be a writer)


FIRST BREAK 

22:12 How did you get your first break? [LL]

Pure luck!

22:35 got 7 days and then that rolled on and I havent stopped working since

Working in kids TV

Multi camera studio director ..

22:50 I was greedy for it I loved it


GRANADA TV

22:52 You got a gig at Granada TV 

23:20 Weren’t snotty about drama 

Have coffee with your mates working on You’ve been Framed and you learned so much 

Funny things happen in Spain thats just because you’re editing Spanish clips


FIFTH DISC (KATE BUSH WUTHERING HEIGHTS) 

She once wrote to me and invited me round for tea, so terrified I didn’t even go 

This is my public apology 

I love her mystery! I don’t know what half her songs are talking about 

24:57 Oh I’ve chucked all those cards out off the mantelpiece





1999 QUEER AS FOLK

Did it feel particularly personal 

Kind of obvious wasn’t it

I’d seen that street (Canal Street) grow 

26:40 I’d be quite peeved if I bumped into friends 

I’d be on the edge of the dance floor 

27:12 It was sexually frank [LL]

It was about the sexual urge 

27:29 What was driving those characters

Never dreamt we’d get away with what we got away with it

People did want to watch it

27:41 It was a huge hit


THE PRESS

27:48 That was a baptism of fire
250 people! All journalists chose to attack the show 

Learned to never back down, had integrity 

One character was 15, caused a lot of controversy 

An out gay teenager was a miracle at this time

Now, much more numerous

I just showed what was going on in this show


SIXTH DISC (HOLD THAT SUCKER DOWN)

Reminds me of time in clubs on that street

This is like being out clubbing 

DR WHO 

30:04 You can famously mark your childhood by the episode you were watching when specific incidents occur

Dream come true to be the person bringing it back to BBC1

My whole life for 5 or 6 years

Transmission on Christmas day 

It was like giving an alcoholic a free bar

30:36 An interesting simile though, not necessarily a good thing [LL]

Still tired!

Base in Cardiff 

Executive Producer on 6 shows at once at one point 

“A programme ruined by a hat”

31:36 When you extrapolate that beyond hats and to all the other design and script decisions, gosh it was busy 

Why bring it back 

31:49 It earns a place in the national hearth

—> BBC put it on at 7pm on a Saturday 

—> On Christmas day, moved into family home 

Wasn’t done at all

Contacted by a divorce lawyer, get awful warring couples 

The one hour of peace they get is all watching Dr Who together


SEVENTH DISC (SONG FOR TEN) 

I often say about Dr Who was that I didn’t have a chance to enjoy it

Did children in need concert, choir sang this song and I thought this is bliss as they hit the descant


PARTNER ANDREW

Move to America with partner Andrew

34:02 Started having hallucinations of an Edwardian lady smiling sarcastically at him 

Did a lot of internet searches

34:31 If I’d searched for the word seizure then I would’ve got the diagnosis in seconds 

—> Epileptic seizure

Grade 4 cancer 18 months to live

Lived for next 8 years

Moved home, became his carer (had 7 operations on his head)

Lucky enough to be able to do that 

35:16 He was compus mentus 

Those 8 years were our happiest years 

35:43 They were so intimate 

36:04 He was properly cherished 

I would chuck that freedom away 

36:36 I’ve been working flat out 

The silence was astonishing after finished the scripts

37:02 Took that long for it to register

Nicest man in the world

37:11 Nice sounds like such a bland word

37:15 When I gave the eulogy I said ‘the world turns under the march of the feet of nice people’

37:27 He had it in spades 

He will be in every good man I write now 

37:44 Where would you go if you had a tardis 

I’d be a bystander in that club on that night when we caught eyes

Not a bad way to go if you have to go





EIGHTH DISC (ELO)

He’d asked me to marry him a hundred times

I didn’t see the point

Pulled the ultimate trick of having a fatal disease

Had to cancel 4 times 

Every time you cancel a wedding you have to pay, the 4th time the woman cried on the phone - I won’t make you pay for this one 

small, 4 friends

As we walked down aisle

39:07 The music cut out

There’s an automatic cut out in the registry office whenever sound gets too great and it was too great because our friends were laughing so much out loud because he’d finally 

39:22 trapped me into this marriage

His face - huge smile, my face - grim 

Who needs 100 people when you can have 4 to laugh you through it





ISLAND 
I imagine a cartoon island 

Book: Asterix and the Roman Agent 

One of the cleverest and greatest stories ever written 

41:23 A huge epic 

Luxury: Ball Pentol Pen 

Choose: Bernstein’s Mass